Due to the lack of active topics (We should stray away from Custlemm from time to time!) I decided on a way for us all to get misty eyed. What was your first experience of this marvelous game? And what format did you first own it on? If you can't remember exactly (Like me) just enlighten us with your early days of the game, and if you can't remember those... Well you're a bit stuck :P

Ever since I've started playing games I've always used them regularly. And when I was young, I had two favourites:Sonic the Hedgehog 2 and Lemmings. Being the owner of an Acorn Archemdies (An old computer in the vein of the Amiga), I would regularly play lots of wonderful little games, and my favourite? You've guessed. Everything about the game appealled to me:The music, the simple but addictive gameplay, the uncanny yet memorable graphics, even the "Let's go" voice! And the best thing? My whole school class thought the same. With every classroom came an Acorn Archemedies, and with every rainy lunch time came much huddling around a single monitor, taking turns to do the levels and just enjoying ourselves really. When we thought we lost the game, you would've thought the apocolypse was coming by our reactions! Fortunately it was found under a mousemat. We found various techniques too, smashing the keyboard keys always seemed to make the game run quicker! Awesome days, rainy lunchtimes were always far, far better then sunny ones with Lemmings around.

And you know what? I still play it regularly. And I love it just as much as I did back then. And for that reason, it remains a game that I'll love as long as I game, and one of my all time favourites.

I owned Lemmings since I was like 5 or 6 whenever. When I was 12 I downloaded Custlemm and Lemedit and played several levelpaks I downloaded. I ended up making a few levels myself. When I registered on this forum I put some of my levels into levelpaks and uploaded them here. Now I've been improving and making better Custlemm levels. I've also owned Wolfenstein 3-D for a while and I'm working on a mod for that. No information has been posted on the internet yet. If you're a wolfenstein fan go to http://www.wolfenstein3d.co.uk . When I downloaded some custlemm levels I discovered levels with invisible terrain and was wondering how that happened. Now I made a level called "The Invisible Bridge" and uploaded it. I've also started reviewing levels on the Custlemm level list game when somebody said I should review a level because I said it was easy. I managed to get the hang of uploading the image for the level and the rest was easy. Now I've thought of better titles for Custlemm levels and told some people about them. I've also placed some levels into the original lemmings to see what the Original Lemmings would be like with different levels etc. Also thanks to Geoo89 for importing 2 features into Custlemm. A new VGASPECx file and a superfast level.

I owned Lemmings for the Mac when I was around 9. Black and white, of course. Apart from "Pea Soup" being impossible (and I didn't discover that for a while anyway) it didn't detract from the enjoyment at all. I loved it ever since I started playing it, and it was one of the first games I designed my own levels for, even though I had no idea it would ever be possible to play them.

I played Lemmings once at ~ age 7 at a friends house... then I didn't play the game until years later.  Nearly 2 years ago, I designed a(n ugly) website where people could download Lemmings, LemEdit, etc. because VTM's website had gone down.  Since then, it has gone thru quite a few visual revisions, until the "blue skin," at which point it was indexed by Google. (w00t!)  Now it's at in a quite stable skin, and I plan to leave it looking like that, hopefully still adding new content.  (BTW, If my site's missing your pack(s), PM me.) Anyway, back to Lemmings:  A while ago, I found that I could play Lemmings in an Amiga emulator, at which point I began my attempt to complete all the levels.  (ATM, I'm on Taxing 22.)  I'm actually not all that great at Lemmings (see previous note :P), but I still love the game.

I received the game from a relative when I was about 7 or so (way back in 1992).  Unfortunately, it didn't work on our 5-year old computer.  After about a year of having an unplayable Lemmings game, my dad bought a new computer, and Lemmings worked just fine! ;D  I still play Lemmings on that same computer today.

At first, I was really too young to go much past the Fun levels -- my dad continued on from there.  Eventually, after playing the game over and over, I began to get good at it.  At this point, my dad had gotten stuck on Taxing 11.  I was good enough at that point to beat it for him.

After we beat the game, we continued with ONML, Lemmings 2, The Lemmings Chronicles, Lemmings 3D, and Lemmings Revolution.  Eventually, I didn't need my dad's help anymore.  I pretty much beat Lemmings Revolution by myself, as well as most of the Mayhem levels in Lemmings 3D.

Now, when I play Lemmings, I focus on finding new backroutes, and improving my scores where possible.  

I played the game the first time when I was maybe 4 or 5, don't remember. It was on the Atari ST. What a wonderful game it is! I remember all the days, playing the 2-Player levels with my old best friend. I also remember that sometimes, when I was back to home, I went directly to my old best friend and we started drawing A LOT of Lemmings levels. That was really cool! 8-)

When I discovered Customized Lemmings and LemEdit, I was like: "Oh my god! Oh my god! My dream come true!". I started making a lot of levels and the result is there: all the Mikepaks.

Finally, when Cheapo was available. It's another "Oh my god! Oh my god! My another dream come true!". ;D

All of this is like a lesson: it is not necessary to have a game very beautiful, very big, with a lot of combat combos, where it is so realistic to have fun! A little game like Lemmings is enough and then, you'll probably have more fun! ;)

I just want to ask a question to you: are old games better than the new ones? Don't you think sometimes that the games in the past where we passed most of our times are better and that are much fun to play? What do you think of that?

I must have been something like 6 when I first played it. My (much) older brother got some cracked version somehow (DOS). I only really played the Fun and Tricky levels for a long time, same with my family (all older), although I remember someone managed to pass Taxing 1 and 2, and my one sister passed Mayhem 1, but that was it!

I'm not sure when I started making levels, but it couldn't have been that much later. I remember there was this girl on my bus to elementary school who drew levels also, and we shared them on the bus.. that was fun.. I don't have any of my old notebooks though, but I'm positive they're all crap :P

I freaked out when I found CustLemm and LemEdit one year ago. It was just so awesome to be able to make levels... It still is, but I'm busier and lazier than ever :P

Thanks for your replies guys, great to hear from you all :)

Did anyone ever find themselves restarting the game when they were young? I did whenever I got to a hard level I couldn't do (Eventually I managed to get towards the end of Tricky-I can still remember being amazed at the Menace level, I had seen nothing like it!). I always go through each level everytime I get a new version (I've just ordered Game Boy Lemmings off ebay :)).

I must have been about 5-6 years ago, im onlya kid!- when i found the revolution demo on a demo disk. About one year ago i bought Winlemm from GAME in worcestershire-thats where i get my name from!

My first Lemmings was on the Sega MegaDrive. While I was passing that, I also got Lemmings Tribes for the same platform, and passed most of that. It was then that I started drawing concept levels on a pad. It wasn't until a few years later that we finally had a computer in my house, but without Internet access. I looked everywhere for Lemmings in the shops, but I couldn't find it. And to make matters worse, I had seen LemEdit and all the screenshots of fan levels on the VTM site on a library computer, but I wasn't able to download anything!  >:(

 Then I started a full time I.T. course at college, so I was able to download Lemmings, Custlemm and LemEdit and fit them all on one floppy disk to take home. (In fact, I didn't even need to download Lemmings, since somebody had left a copy sitting there on the hard disk of the very computer I was on at the time!) So I got home to try it, and it was all a bit slow and LemEdit wouldn't work because it was an XP machine.

 Then finally I remembered that we still had an old Windows 98 machine up in my sister's room, so I immediately ran to try it out. And it worked! :D My days of dreaming were over.

I think I was about 5 or 6 when I first saw it. I only remember vaguely, but I think I have the picture of "Just Dig" or some dirt style level in my head. I didn't want to play it though, I just wanted to watch someone else play.
When I had got a little older I browsed with a friend of mine though the various games, but we found Supaplex first and just played it not continuing searching.
I remember in elementary school we had an old comp. and played various games there too. I almost never played actively there though, but I remember us standing around the screen in a crowd watching; this were my only contacts to lemmings at that time.
After moving, I think in 2001, I began to play again, among other games also lemmings. I used to play a game for a few weeks or months, and after that I switched to another one. After some time, when I had played a couple of games, the cycle restarted and I continued games I played before. In 2003 I somehow found LemEdit and created a few levels, nothing special though. At the end of that year I found the Supaplex forum and stopped playing other games for over a year. In the beginning of 2005 I somehow got the feeling that I wanted to play lemmings again, and continued playing the original levels/ONML with WinLemm, later I registered here. I think the rest you may know. I still neither completed the original levels nor ONML, but at least for ONML I'm going to do it.
And yeah, I have to agree with DragonsLover, I somehow think that the older games are better. Why else should I still playing them while so many new ones exist?
Oh, and I just want to say again @JM, I didn't find those two feature, I just was the first one making a level supporting them. I got that information reading the conversation between ccexplore and Mindless in some thread, and after that I guessed that for the vgaspec file it might be the byte mentioned in rt's level format description.

My first lemming I saved was about 10 years ago when I was on a PC from someone from my family...I liked it that much that I copied the game but I never got it to work myself,so I needed to bring my PC to a PC shop to fix the problem...

A few months ago I discovered CustLem and LemEdit,which gave Lemmings a whole new dimension to me :)

When I was little,I couldn't pass levels like "lemmingology" etc...now I passed all original and ONML lemmings...except from my black beast: "Race against the cliches"...
I still have a few more Genesis levels to pass ;)

One level I really hate is "from the boundary line"...I manage to fail on it in 99% of all cases :)

I agree with Dragonslover and geo, I generally prefer retro gaming to today's gaming. The oldies just seem to have that sort of undeniable magic, and they're generally more fun to play. Of course, I'm not pre-1997 only, I regularly invest in new games, and I am constantly losing sleep over anticipation for Mario Kart DS, but I'll have a SNES over a Gamecube anyday.

Leviathan, I've always used a backroute in 'Race Against the Cliches'. I never touched the ceiling.

Newer games are good too, but are kinda much complicated. Simple games are always fun to play! If you played the game Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time. The game isn't so complicated and it's why it was so popular and fun to play. It always depend.

Geoo: A little council: Play Lemmings and Oh no! More Lemmings under Dosbox using the corrected versions of the game. These are better than WinLemm, in my opinion.

I'm already doing this, I just used WinLem when I didn't know about DosBox.

Prince of Persia was/is also one of my favourite games, and I have to agree again, I prefer playing more simple games.

Yup , Lem1 and 2 are the best.Dragonlovers right. I find l2 better than l1 though ;) :) :D ;D >:( :( :o 8-) :-? ::) :P :-[ :-X :-/ :-* :'( i have gone insane with smilys :exclamation :exclamation :exclamation :exclamation

Lemmings does work best on the old computers if the Archimedies is anything to go by. I've got a thriving temptation to get one again... It won't take up much space either, since I can use my current monitor with it.

You prefer 2 Winlemm? I like it, but I don't really like the choice you get with the levels. It results in a very wobbly difficulity curve. There's far too many new skills too. Still a great game though, I own the SNES version of it.

Really? How bizarre. There's only 40 lemmings instead of the usual 60 too...

Aren't they aware that SNES players liked playing R Type III and Super Mario Kart 150cc?

Could you PM me a detailed solution on that?
I've been stuck on this level for years...

Well, to give some aspects of things I dislike at WinLem:
- If you want to select a skill to any lemming using WinLem, there's a delay of about two or three frames until the lemming is starting executing the skill.
- Zoom is only 1:1, 1:2 or 1:4. But IMO 1:3 would be the best since 1:2 is too small and 1:4 is too large.
- To scroll through the level, you have to use a scrollbar.
- There are a few differences in the game mechanics, e.g. an exploder turns everytime lemmings around, the causes another way possible to solve five alive; that means it makes it less compatible for playing CustLemm levels.
I btw never knew about the high-res graphics until it was mentioned in some relation to 0xdeadbeef's project since low-res is set default.

I agree with geoo. And also, climbers pass through the top of the level instead of falling back down.

Only the High-Res, the easy compatibility and the Speed Up button are good for Lemmings95. Lemmings Dos is better and is more "original"! ;)

Back in 1994/95 when I was 7, me and my friend from Spain who was staying for the year in Britain found Lemmings and got a bit obsessed and I never really looked back. I got quite famous for it: even 4 years later one guy was still telling me how if I got a Playstation I could get Lemmings 3D (and I did, eventually, but much much more recently, and only by chance when I found it in a car boot sale). Similarly I've always had an obsession with Tintin, for even longer, and all my classmates have known about that. Even now my flatmates at university know that I like Tintin, because it's easier to show that I do...

Anyway, I digress.... yes.... first thing about Lemmings I ever saw was actually the gamebook in a book sale at my school, but my dad found a demo of the game at basically the same time, on a MacFormat floppy disc or something. What's more, it was an exclusive demo (I found it again more recently and it says that it was made especially), which contained the levels Only Floaters Can Survive This, They Just Keep On Coming, Lend A Helping Hand..., and And Then There Were Four.... . Me and my dad basically learnt Lemmings on that second, although by hesitant experimentation only. Floaters were already pretty obvious from the first level, and blockers and exploders had obvious uses. Miners were fairly self-evident as well, and I must have worked out climbers too. Builders, diggers and bashers took a bit longer: diggers again I must have just worked out. Builders were a source of amazement when we first actually tried them, for I had thought that they were wearing a stop sign, which couldn't be good. Finer points like the fact that you could build twice to get a longer bridge took a wee bit longer. Bashers took quite a bit longer because it's more difficult to time them properly if you don't know what you're doing, making it seem like the skill does nothing, so we used to try and use a complicated system of miners, which was impractical.
And once we'd got that the remaining levels were, while of harder difficulty, a lot easier to work out.
I played this over and over for quite a while because my dad wouldn't get the game immediately.
Me and my aforementioned Spanish friend read the gamebooks avidly, as well. They didn't make much sense at all at first because the storyline is heavily based around the storyline of The Tribes, especially in the first, although the second wasn't even out at the time. Avidly to the extent that we practically had contests over it and things like that. There were other things like how I eventually worked out a quick way of doing the shadow maze, and he practically refused to believe me. He also had Christmas Lemmings on his computer later on, but I never got to play it in the end, basically because his dad didn't really like computer games, except "educational ones". (who says lemmings isn't educational, eh? ::) :P) I also once got my teacher to read it to us in class, but that fell through after a few days iirc.
And I think it was for a Christmas (possibly birthday, but I doubt it because that's too close to the start of the school year) present that my dad got me the Lemmings/ONML combo boxset thingie for the mac. Never looked back. Amazing game ever since.

Other Lemmings escapades.... hmm....
I did design my own levels at some points in my life but they've almost all disappeared except ones I've done more recently. I made a couple with screenshots and "Fine Artist", which was a paint program for children, quite a few years later so maybe at the age of 12-14, even with Lemmings walking about on them and stuff, but only in the sand tileset. It was also fairly obvious that the game was made of tiles, even at the age of <10, and a couple of times I imagined what a new tileset might look like; one idea was some kind of flat-roofed house, a bit like one from Sim City 2000 (but let's not go there!).
Another fun thing I once did was with another friend, who I first met when I was 8, so it must have been that year, or the one after, but he had an Atari, and a copy of Lemmings for that (though he didn't play it as much as me). One time we played the two player version, which was simply amazing, as far as I was concerned. He never let me play it again though, even though I asked him he would just say I was obsessed or something (well fair enough). I don't think he enjoyed it as much (though he did); I remember he quit when we got to the last level; partly because it was too hard--I think I did both players for that level or something.
I only finally found out how to edit levels a couple of years ago, at least, but not more than 4 years ago. I don't think it was that long ago though. I think it was when the Lemmings Universe board was still around, and I definitely joined that board. I think I was jealous of people who had Lemedit, so I got ResEdit out and experimented with the code to work out how it worked. It had a convenient template, as I said somewhere else, so it wasn't toooo difficult, but it did take ages. And since then I've designed a lot more levels, but only a few are still around, and only a few have been implemented. I feel like I ought to do a couple more now given that Lemedit works now, and Cheapo when I'm at home.

And that brings me up to the present. My life story, ladies and gentlemen. ;) There's a few other unimportant details that I've left out, partly because I've now run out of space. This limit sucks, Andy. :P

What an amazing adventure Finlay! ;D

Heh! I just remembered something really stupid that I did one time: In a PC Magazine some years ago, there was Lemmings Paintball and I really really wanted it. So, I wrote in a birthday card (because it was near the birthday of my father) a little note about that I wanted it! What a good message for a Happy Birthday isn't it? ;D

Today, I still didn't know why I did that! I always considered that I was stupid in that time. Probably... :-[

I remember getting Lemmings on PC a while back. Maybe I was 8 or 9. Can't remember exactly. I remember playing for a while, then I had obscene problems passing Taxing 13 and Mayhem 9 (Very bizarre levels to be stuck on, in retrospect...) and quit for about 3 years, came back, and passed those and beat the game with few problems (Mayhem 20, basically).

I found out that I had ONML on the same disc before I gave up on Taxing 13/Mayhem 9 the first time. Played that for a while, and was discouraged at the huge difficulty swing from Tame to Crazy. In fact, I passed Havoc 1 before Crazy 2 or Wild or Wicked 1, all of which I got stuck on at that age (Never passed Havoc 2 at that age, though) and ignored it until I came back to the game. Levels I remember having problems with on ONML were Crazy 7 (if only for the precision), Crazy 10 (I passed Wild in its entirety and Wicked up until 10 before this one... and I STILL think it should be at least two whole sets higher in the game's ordering), Wicked 1/2/3/5 (Turned my away from the set for quite a while... I still say that these are four of the hardest 6 or 7 levels in Wicked), Wicked 10 (First time in my life I ever literally beat myself up over not being able to pass a level. Really), Havoc 4 (Yes, the race against cliches was very, very hard for me, also. I can't think of a way that DOESN'T use the ceiling here... but I think it was a massive oversight placing this so early in the set), Havoc 10 (A massive head-slap when I figured this out), Havoc 14 (I think the level I failed the most at in any Lemmings game), and Havoc 18 (Which, in my mind, is the hardest level in ONML. Most of you will disagree, but for my playing style, it's the worst level for me).

I only ever rented Lemmings 2, for SNES. I was proud of being able to pass everything with one lemming (At that age, I didn't realise the goal was to save the most possible lemmings in a tribe... and also had loads of problems with that one level in teh Classic set that needs a blocker to turn something). Didn't grasp that game too well.

Here's the levels I remember either myself or my dad getting stuck on when we played Lemmings together:

Lemmings
Tricky 19 - It took us a few days to figure it out.
Taxing 11 - My dad never did figure this one out, so I ended up beating it for him.
Taxing 15 - Only later did I realize that you can build over all of those spikes
Taxing 23 - Kept running out of builders
Taxing 29 - I had forgotten the climber/miner trick, and kept running out of builders.
Mayhem 5 - I figured out what to do pretty quickly.  Executing it was another matter.
Mayhem 7 - This is probably the best story of all the levels we got stuck on.  We saw that there were seven columns, but only four bashers, and we had no idea how to proceed.  At one point, I mentioned that I was able to save one lemming, and my dad asked how I did it.  I told him that I sent a climber up, and he climbed all of the towers and built to the exit.  My dad then beat the level shortly afterward, saying that my use of the climber gave him the idea to dig through the poles.
Mayhem 28 - This one took about three weeks before we found a solution that doesn't run out of builders.

ONML
Wicked 2 - It took us a while to find a way to keep the final builder from hitting his head.I never did get the "back door" approach (the one that uses the cavity on the right side of the level) to work.  I have the right amount of skills, but I always run out of time.
Wicked 9 - For some reason (I don't know why), my dad just gave up on this one.  It took me only a few minutes to beat it for him.
Wicked 10 - After beating Wicked 9 while my dad was at work, I tried the next level.  I eventually beat it, but the backroute solution I had found required pixel-perfect timing in about three places.  I never did find the intended solution until a couple of years ago.
Wicked 18 - My dad spent hours trying to navigate through the icicles and the trap underneath the big iceberg.  I found the "over the top" route several years later.
Havoc 19 - This one took several weeks to figure out.  Today, I am much more experienced, and I once beat it using only three(!) builders.
Havoc 20 - Bomber timing -- ugh.  Usually, it doesn't bother me too much, but when you need to be almost perfect, and one mistake makes you have to start over, it is just nasty.

The difficulty curve on the Present/Sunsoft levels on the Mega Drive version was ridiculous. You could be going along fine and then suddenly hit an impossible level, before finding that the next one was dead simple. =/

My first Lemmings experience was probably when I was about 9 years old and played the PC version of Lemmings. I've also got a distinct memory of never being able to do the Superlemming level from ONML. I can pass it now, I just vividly remember being stuck at the end when I was younger. =P

All the difficult sets (Taxing, Mayhem, and ONML excluding Tame) were like that, though. I remember being stuck on Mayhem 26 for so long I decided I might as well use the codes I'd found in a magazine to look at what the next level was like, and it turned out to be Just a Minute (Part Two)!!!

And then, the levels are as difficult as you find them, and some players might find one level really difficult that others find easy. I got completely stuck on Mayhem 21 -- couldn't figure it out at all. Yet it's actually really simple, especially compared to Mayhem 20, which involves a completely new and unexpected trick -- and I got past that with no problem whatever.

I mean don't get me wrong, I know each person is going to find some levels harder than others and that we're all going to find different levels hard, but even so there's no escaping the fact that on a level where the exit is in the other direction and the only tool you have is one blocker, it doesn't take a genius to work out how to solve it. But some 3 levels prior to that one (Present level 4) you've got to navigate around various traps and whatnot. Levels 27-29 on Sunsoft were probably the 3 hardest levels I've ever done, but the last level was simple for me. It was just frustrating to get stuck on a random level, then pass the next 5 in a flash.

Edit - Sorry, I meant Sunsoft 27-29, not Present 27-29.

Present 29 and Sunsoft 29 are some of the hardest levels in the game (still haven't passed them, mybe I'm just scared of precision), while present 30 and sunsoft 30 were easy (for me, don't know about anyone else). At least in present the last few levels are hard and the rest are easy, but in sunsoft it seems almost random (what was with 21??????).

Well, I know different people find different levels hard, but I am very surprised that anyone should have problems with Present 27. And that's not considering the ridiculous backroutes (find two different ways to pass the level with no builders.......)

I still haven't solved Present 30, but then, I haven't had time to look at it since I got back from Australia.

What was with Sunsoft 21, tseug? For me that was one of the hardest in the Sunsoft category, right up there with Sunsoft 9 and 30.

Sunsoft 9 gave me some trouble, but Sunsoft 30 was only moderate difficulty to me, maybe because it's just my kind of level. I found present 30 even easier, it just looked forboding with all those fire traps. I thought present 27 was a nice level, but certainly not difficult.

EDIT: I've been trying present 29. My best so far is 19/20, because ONE LEMMING fell off the screen! This is getting annoying! :P

EDIT2: I got it! Now I wonder how other people did it, that seemed too hard, even for a 29th level.

Oops. I meant Sunsoft 27-29, not Present 27-29. >_< Though present 29 did give me some problems. Sunsoft 29 has got to be probably the most precise level I've ever done, I'm not even going to try and attempt the 100% solution that tseug hinted at in another thread even though it's been proven possible.


A Lemmings fell off the screen? =/ Where the hell did that happen? I can barely see anywhere where a Lemming can actually fall off the map save for the gap you're supposed to build over. If you mean he fell out of the cell then I can understand that though.

As for the other levels mentioned, ccexplore had to help me with Sunsoft 9, in the end it was a stupid thing I hadn't seen. And oh my God, Sunsoft 21 gave me a hell of a lot of problems. I'm proud of the fact that I was able to beat it myself but recently I was doing a walkthrough for this game (mentioned some of you guys and this site at the bottom of it as I'd never have beaten some levels without the people here ^^) and I had extreme difficulties executing a solution for Sunsoft 21 just to make sure it was correct. >_< Sunsoft 30 was ok for me.

I'm curious though, what are people's solutions for Sunsoft 28, The Gate Trap Lemmings? I can't even remember my original solution for that and the one I put in my Walkthrough just barely works. I think of all the 120 levels in the Mega Drive version of this game, I'm most proud of the fact I beat that level.

It's a while ago now and I don't remember exactly how I did it, but from looking at the diagram, something like this should work:

Make the first lemming from the right group block before the edge. Make the *last* lemming from the left group dig down the left edge of the one-way wall, then bash when he reaches the part with right-facing arrows. Build a landing platform for the right lemmings, then dig and bash under the blocker. Release the left lemmings by bashing left, then turn one round on the "step" just before the exit so he can bash to release the others.

EDIT: just tried it and it works fine. I was extra-cautious and used three builders for the landing platform (starting from the middle of the ledge before the gap) but possibly you could get away with two. You would then finish with two builders and one basher left, as well as, of course, the floater and bomber.

The lemming fell off the screen, down past the bottom edge, down the gap that you have to build over. When I actually did the level it was still pretty close. So, how did other people do the level?

Are you still talking about Present 29 there? The way I did it was have the first Lemming dig down the right pillar, he'll hit the steel and leave him there. With the next Lemming, dig through the beam pretty far right, then dig and put each Lemming in turn in each of the little square cells starting with the left one. With the final Lemming, there's an icicle dangling down to the left of the trap, dig above that and he'll survive the fall. Then he'll walk into the wall and turn around, then he can build over the gap and bash to the exit. Dig to release each Lemming from the square cell in turn, making sure not to break the wall to the next one, and then when they're all down, bash left to get them under the steel wall. You shouldn't be trying to get Lemmings over the gap before the bridge is built, which is why I'm having trouble seeing how you're losing a Lemming anywhere.



Ah, nice. My solution was way more complicated. XD I bashed dug/mined (can't remember which now) and bashed with the left Lemmings. I used the last Lemming from there to build to turn around, bashed right and build over to make the platform. I contained the right Lemmings by digging a pit and letting one Lemming bash away the wooden step so that the Lemmings could survive the fall. Can I steal your solution for my walkthrough please? XD

I take my earlier comment back by the way. Mayhem 19, "Time to get up!" is the hardest, most annoying level in the game. Having to time those 2 bombers to perfection without a save state would be so unbelievably annoying. >_<

This is a saved state near the end. It doesn't show everything that happened but it should give you a pretty good idea. It fits with my tradition of finding crazy backroutes instead of what was intended.

Damn, how did you get the Lemmings to the bottom without them going splat? =/

Did you follow what I meant by my method? I can take a screenshot if you like. I think you might have to try and do it the intended way, or at least a semi intended way because I've not seen anyone ever mention a backroute for this level.

Your method makes sense, and seems like it was intended. Mine is evidently a crazy backroute. You can look at the whole level by scrolling, and you should see a path that lets them survive.

For those who want a challenge, try doing present 29 using no more than 10 diggers. (The savestate gives it away, so don't look if you want to figure it out for yourself)

Make it simpler still by combining our solutions -- my blocker trick plus your way of dealing with the left side.

Thanks, I'll credit you for it in there. ^^ If anyone wants to see and/or critique them then let me know. =P



Yeah, looks like it because there's just enough holding cells for everyone to allow the other 2 Lemmings to do the other work. Also seems like you got your way to work as well, which is pretty impressive. I still can't see how you were able to make all the Lemmings survive the fall, but it's still impressive.

Edit - No wait, I can see how you did it. That is impressive, I don't think I ever even saw the potential for that in the entire level.

If you want to give me credit (which I don't insist on), my name is Michael S. Repton. And yes, I'd be very interested to see them!

Ooh right, I credited you as your Username here because I link to the forum in my walkthrough because of the help I got here. Here they are, working on one for Taxing/Mayhem levels now which is half done. Bear in mind I don't have the knowledge of most people here so where some levels may have easy backroutes, a lot of them I probably don't know about, so most of them probably aren't listed. It's more a walkthrough for just beating the game, not saving the maximum amount of Lemmings all the time. Comments are welcome, in PM or at either of my emails is probably best.

I was drawn to Lemmings by the simplicity of the early levels and the nice colours, but damn, the later levels really had me stumped when I was much younger, I look at them in a different way now and between 10 years old and 19 (which I am now) your brain develops quite a bit. I could have looked at some of these levels forever and not got the solution when I was younger. =/

I understand. Nevertheless, please change it.

I had a quick look through the guides; good stuff! If you want, I'd be happy to help you out by telling you the backroutes I know of, and the main solution where you've only found a backroute (e.g. Let's go camping, although I have to credit ccexplore for that). Maybe not soon, though, as I'm very busy at the moment.

Done. ^^

Yeah, there are some Levels like that one and Cave Quest where my solution seemed like a complete backroute. I'm no expert at saying what the intended solution is on some levels, but Cave Quest involved me going over the top of the entire map, which not only seemed easier, but as the only way I could actually do it. =/ Any comments, suggestions, improvements, whatever are welcome from anyone. ^^

I'd like to know what age group Lemmings was actually targeted at. As I said earlier, I was drawn to it at a young age and I'm sure many others were too, but surely they can't have expected little kids to get some of these solutions. Some levels are increibly hard to work out and others you need to be pixel precise, which requires good judgement, and some other levels you've got to manage about 4 things at once.

Your description of Sunsoft 27 is very accurate. ;) That one took me several tries. The way I did it, the lemmings exploded right before hitting the ground, creating a perfect downward hole. :P

I hope you married this girl!