Pheee
08 Nov 2005 19:57:01
WinLemEdit
Hey Everyone,

i have been in the process of writing a lemmings level editor in windows using c#, its aim was to be a drag and drop editor. i have a basis, but stopped developing it due to the images, I could take screen shots of every object using lemEdit, but I cant distribute them with the editor, so best way is to read the files, meaning no copyright problem, cause you have to own the game to use the editor.

Ok I just need some help reading the sprites and graphics etc, maybe someone wants to help out, project is on source forge.

Just wondered what people know or think etc.

Let me know here.
JM
08 Nov 2005 20:01:31
Re: WinLemEdit
I've always wanted a windows version of Lemedit  :P
ccexplore (not logged in)(Guest)
08 Nov 2005 20:49:13
Re: WinLemEdit
Ok I just need some help reading the sprites and graphics etc, maybe someone wants to help out, project is on source forge.

I don't know enough about the specifics of Windows programming in C# to help, but the relevant info on extracting graphics had been posted on this board somewhere under General Discussion.  In fact, we have figured out how to extract both the high-resolution graphics from WinLemm and the standard-resolution graphics (including graphics for the 4 so-called "special graphics levels") for DOS Lemmings/ONML, so you can even support both.

When I have time I'll search for the threads that have the info.  You can also e-mail or PM Mindless.

A Windows version of LemEdit would be awesome, I've been wanting to ditch that dinky LemEdit for such a long time. ;) ;D
JM
08 Nov 2005 20:55:59
Re: WinLemEdit
A windows version of Lemedit would be excellent  8-)
Mindless
08 Nov 2005 23:36:35
Re: WinLemEdit
104 An Error Has Occurred!: Unable to open 1123282272.txt

:'(
0xdeadbeef (Ex Member)

:o

Err...
/me looks back in archives: Lemmings Sprite Format
Pheee
10 Nov 2005 17:26:11
Re: WinLemEdit
does any one have any code examples for these sprite files, 0xdeadbeef said in those posts he did a prog in java.

would help me tremendously to get this going.
JM
12 Nov 2005 12:55:28
Re: WinLemEdit
Is the WinLemedit program still being worked on may I ask kindly?
Pheee
15 Nov 2005 09:57:27
Re: WinLemEdit
Yes it is still being worked on, currently there is only myself...

its on sourceforge.net, as WinLemEdit.

It stopped because of the graphics problem, copyright etc.

I am also open to people joining to get this up and running faster.
Mindless
17 Nov 2005 22:25:18
Re: WinLemEdit
does any one have any code examples for these sprite files

!! Outdated !!

Thanks to some help from mjs over at the FreeBASIC forums.
Mindless
22 Nov 2005 02:21:01
Re: WinLemEdit
Slight modifications to code, plus compiled version: http://it.travisbsd.org/lemmings/_misc/sprtest.zip
0xdeadbeef
22 Nov 2005 19:38:41
Re: WinLemEdit
I could help out with Java code (quick hack, more or less undocumented and not too pretty) if someone's still interested...
ccexplore (not logged in)(Guest)
22 Nov 2005 21:13:46
Re: WinLemEdit
I think Pheee is looking for C#.  Unfortunately there is no interop support for Java in C# as far as I am aware.

I'm under the impression he kinda just want someone to do this particular piece of work (of loading graphics from the original game) for him.  Of course, most of us are too lazy for that--if we are any less lazy, WinLemEdit would probably already have been written by one of us well before Pheee arrived.

I would think that with 0xdeadbeef's descriptions, and sample code from Mindless etc, and some trial and error + Q&A with us, that should be enough for someone sufficiently motivated to get started.

In any case, the least Pheee can do is to explain how the graphics are to be stored and manipulated internally in his program.  No real code can be written until the desired structure and format of the output is specified.  I personally know nothing about graphics programming in C# so I can't help, though presumably it probably supports one of the standard formats like BMP, and you can always pInvoke the native Windows API if necessary.
JM
22 Nov 2005 21:24:21
Re: WinLemEdit
Can somebody give me the link to the download of WinLemedit please?
Mindless
22 Nov 2005 22:58:04
Re: WinLemEdit
Can somebody give me the link to the download of WinLemedit please?

It's not functional yet.
0xdeadbeef
23 Nov 2005 17:36:35
Re: WinLemEdit
Hm, I could provide Pheee with a fully functional sprite extractor (in Java) which can extract all background tiles as GIFs from the Win95 version. For background tiles, it works 90% percent automatically for each tileset (only some resources like the arrows are saved as one GIF instead of two). It's just that I can't give support for this as I wrote it for me, myself and I. Also if I find time for programming, I'd rather continue with my own project.
Then again providing the resources with the Editor will also infringe Sony's copyright.
JM
23 Nov 2005 17:39:54
Re: WinLemEdit
This WinLemedit program will be better than the Lemedit program for Dos  ;)
Pheee
28 Nov 2005 18:10:25
Re: WinLemEdit
0xdeadbeef

I would be intersted in java sources, if you offer still stands.

I dont ask for any support thats no problem either, and i know java quite well due to my job.

Let me know if you can supply any code.
ccexplore (not logged in)(Guest)
28 Nov 2005 18:43:14
Re: WinLemEdit
Can somebody give me the link to the download of WinLemedit please?

It's not functional yet.

It's on sourceforge so you can download it in its current, incomplete state, but that's probably not what you'd want, JM.
0xdeadbeef
29 Nov 2005 17:05:20
Re: WinLemEdit
@Pheee: check your mail
Pheee
30 Nov 2005 12:28:58
Re: WinLemEdit
excellent, hopefully I can make some progress at the weekend ;)