As it was mentioned the current ones show better expressions I ask you now, do you want the old ones back or keep this ones?

Keep both I say, like you say the current ones do show better expression, but I do love the lemmings ones, they fit the forum theme and make the forum feel more unique.

I'd put the lemmings smilies in the 'more smilies' menu, and keep the original ones where they are.

I prefer the Lemmings smilies. I don't really see a need for the generic ones, personally.

Keep both...

Btw, with a new forum, why not trying to do new lemmings smylies. I know that there's already yours and these of Mike. But, why not?

Well here's my dreadful, five minute attempt at a Lemming smiley!

The hair needs a load of work (Pixel hair is a NI-I-IGHTMARE!), and the size is a little large looking at it now, but I'm sure we could build something from that, even if it is more of a womble with green dyed hair :P

I also thought of making new smilies. I'll give it a try. You others can try, too. ;)

;D ;D ;D That certainly makes for an excellent "LOL" smilie--I still can't stop laughing as I'm writing this! :P

Anyway, keep going on it.  It is kinda cute, just needs a mouth to complete it.

Is it really that bad? :(

Or are you just finding it funny to look at? :P

But yeah, I'll fiddle around with it. I can do a little pixel art, but don't ask me to do big things or animate stuff! The womble head of the lemmings mean that it's impossible to make the mouth visible from there though. I guess I'll just have to put the expression in the eyes as with the old ones.

Well I don't know, I just know that I started laughing when I saw it.  I don't think it's bad, more that maybe it looks goofy since it's a 5-minute attempt and looks so different from what we've seen before.

And the size isn't too big, I think it only looks big because you have that huge gray box around it right now.  The head itself is only slightly bigger (well, taller) than the standard yaBB smilies.

Suits you sir!

I've had another twiddle with the sprite, although not with much success. I know it doesn't seem too big, but the problem with large smilies is that they push the text above them upwards, which doesn't look quite right. But in trying to make it small, it's lost all of it's lemming look, so I may have to keep it the current size. I'll still edit it though, I can't keep the worryingly angular hair there.

My attempt of a Lemmings Smiley.

Ok then, I'll just edit the hair and do some emoticons.

And Andi, that's brilliant! Reminds me of Harvest Moon for some bizarre reason.

Suddenly I have an idea for an avatar......a 3D rendered lemming head!

EDIT: It is done! I know it isn't very good.....but at least I have an avatar. ;)

Thanks. I did the hairs a bit like the guy in HM. The other reason could be HM is anime-like, just like the eyes.

It would seem that the most logical thing to do regarding smilies, is to revert back to the Lemmings ones used in the old board, but keep these new, default YaBB ones as alternatives.

Why?

The issue is how smilies come out on posts that were made before the upgrade.  Some of those smilies automatically become the default YaBB smilies because they share the same code.  But other ones, like :devil:, is not a default smilie code in YaBB, so they don't get turned into smilies.

But here's the thing, if we later do add back all the missing smilies from the old board, noticed that we would then have a mix of the non-lemmings YaBB smilies and the lemmings smilies, even on the old posts.  Is that what we really want?

Granted, it's not the end of the world to have such a mix of smilies, but I'm thinking that the old posts would look nicer if we stick to making the default smilies set a Lemmings one.

(This doesn't affect the voting since the voting is asking more along the lines of whether we should get rid of the default YaBB smilies altogether.)

Andi, I found your smilie a little bit.......... small! :P

I keep thinking it looks like a hairy acorn...  :P

The lemmings big nose should be "in front" of him. Now, it looks like there's no nose at all! ;D

Well, yes. Because I kept the size of the old ones.