Mindless
26 Jun 2005 04:39:01
CustLemm under XP
I've never gotten Customized Lemmings to work under Windows XP... I've tried VDMSound and DOSBox, but with sad results (e.g. 1 frame per second, how am I supposed to play that slow???)

So, what I'm really wondering is can anyone tell how I can get it to work???
guest
26 Jun 2005 06:54:34
Re: CustLemm under XP
Strange, Custlemm works fine for me in DOSBox.  What version of DOSBox are you using?  (The latest was 0.63.)

Does this mean you can't get the official versions of Lemmings & ONML to work well either, or is it just Custlemm?

I guess you can always try Ctrl+F12 to increase the emulation speed, or one of the other Ctrl+F? key to increase the frame skip (the latter at a cost of decrease in animation quality).  Does LemEdit2 work well on your machine?  If it does it'd be rather surprising since my impression has been that LemEdit2 is far more demanding on the machine than Custlemm.
tumble_weed
26 Jun 2005 12:21:38
Re: CustLemm under XP
custlemm works fine with me without dosbox...and i have XP :S

in fact im using it now
Mindless
26 Jun 2005 13:42:51
Re: CustLemm under XP
When I try to use CustLemm in DOSBox (0.63), it goes perfectly until after the level preview, then it freezes.
...w/o DOSBox, it runs at ~5fps and the palette flickers.

LemEdit 2 works perfectly.

Original VGALEMMI.EXE in DOSBox freezes at the same point that CustLemm freezes.
...w/o DOSBox, also runs at ~5fps and the palette flickers.
Shvegait
26 Jun 2005 17:41:43
Re: CustLemm under XP
Weird. I've never run into any problems running Lemmings on XP with or without DOSBox..   :???:
Mindless
26 Jun 2005 18:41:54
Re: CustLemm under XP
Perhaps I'll try running it from my other XP partition...
guest
26 Jun 2005 19:30:16
Re: CustLemm under XP
I guess you can always try Ctrl+F12 to increase the emulation speed

I actually tried this one out and, at least on my computer, it actually made things worse, the game actually run much slower (and very jerky) as a result.

Which reminds me:  if you run custlemm after you run lemedit2, be sure to set the emulation speed back to the normal range of about 3000.

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Perhaps your video driver needs an update or something?

Also, try and see what happens when you disable music and/or sound effects.

Incidentally, since you said the original Lemmings also failed in DOSBox, you might be able to report the problem on DOSBox forums and see if anyone there can help (doubtful but you never know).

Good luck and hope you can get things working!
Mindless
27 Jun 2005 02:32:13
Re: CustLemm under XP
I GOT IT!!!  My computer isn't "high performance" enough for Lemmings!  :P  :D
I needed to start CustLemm "For PC compatables, Tandy"

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That just cracks me up... not "high performance" enough for an old DOS game... oh, wait... I know why... I'm running M$ Windows!
guest
27 Jun 2005 04:54:34
Re: CustLemm under XP
I GOT IT!!!  My computer isn't "high performance" enough for Lemmings!  :P  :D
I needed to start CustLemm "For PC compatables, Tandy"

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That just cracks me up... not "high performance" enough for an old DOS game... oh, wait... I know why... I'm running M$ Windows!

LOL, so that's why you're the only one who couldn't get custlemm to work, you dummy.  ;P

"High performance" doesn't actually mean what you think it means.  I believe it refers to certain PC clones back in the days when Lemmings was released.  Those PC clones have some hardware differences that I guess supposedly makes certain things higher-performance.  In particular I think "high performance" referred to the IBM PS/2 machines.

They never caught on however, so the PCs you used nowadays are far more like regular PC-compatiable machines than those "high performance" machines.  DOSBox probably couldn't support it because it doesn't support those non-PC-compatible features that "high performance" take advantage of or works around.

I'm also amused that you picked "high performance"...what were you trying to accomplish, to make the lemmings go faster than they're supposed to or something?  :P
DragonsLover
27 Jun 2005 16:01:02
Re: CustLemm under XP
If the game seems to freeze on the main menu at the end of some levels, just press Alt+Enter twice. Trust me, it works! O_o
Mindless
27 Jun 2005 18:20:11
Re: CustLemm under XP
I'm also amused that you picked "high performance"...what were you trying to accomplish, to make the lemmings go faster than they're supposed to or something?  :P

I assumed that my computer was of higher performance than the computers Lemmings was designed for...
guest
27 Jun 2005 20:02:46
Re: CustLemm under XP
Actually, I'm kinda curious what the "high performance" option really does on machines where it actually works.

I mean, Lemmings already worked fine on non-high-performance machines, so do you get better animation or something on "high performance"?

Mike would probably know, but I don't know if he ever reads this particular sub-forum.
Isu
27 Jun 2005 20:48:23
Re: CustLemm under XP
I'm not Mike, but I'd like to voice my opinion on this, I believe that the 'High performance' mode has better graphics. Not much better mind, I think the toolbox is like that of the Amiga. I've only tried 'High Performance' once, on my old PC, and I got the same problem as Mindless. That was what I could get out of it.

P.S Feel free to prove me wrong, since I don't really know.
Shvegait
27 Jun 2005 21:01:36
Re: CustLemm under XP
Under DOSBox, with IBM PS2 option (#3), the font of the In%, Out, and Time is different, and the toolbox looks different. Also, the levels slowly fade in and out. The levels themselves look different, though (EGA only?)

The 4th option (forget what it's called) looks like the 1st (normal PC option), but the mouse didn't seem to work.


Under normal XP, I can get the levels to load under High Performance and IBM PS2, with the same results. The screen flickers but the level never starts, and the mouse doesn't work. The toolbox, font, etc. is the same in both of these modes.
guest
13 Jul 2005 18:54:44
Re: CustLemm under XP
I can't get CustLemm to run at all. When I try it with or without DOSBOX it displays:
"Open Has Failed: (some weird characters)
Exiting Lemmings..."
Shvegait
13 Jul 2005 21:07:44
Re: CustLemm under XP
Are you missing any critical files?
DragonsLover
13 Jul 2005 21:11:21
Re: CustLemm under XP
Be sure that you have Adlib.dat and Tandysnd.dat in the same folder where you put the executable. That's all! Enjoy!
guest
13 Jul 2005 21:21:16
Re: CustLemm under XP
Note again that here it's resident-guest replying to a passerby-guest:

I can't get CustLemm to run at all. When I try it with or without DOSBOX it displays:
"Open Has Failed: (some weird characters)
Exiting Lemmings..."

You're missing some files or the files are corrupted.

To run CustLemm you need pretty much all the other files of Lemmings.  I believe Insane Steve or someone had some time ago uploaded a version of CustLemm that has all the necessary files from the original Lemmings, but I don't remember the URL to it.
guest
13 Jul 2005 22:57:38
Re: CustLemm under XP
The one I downloaded was missing Adlib.dat and Tandysnd.dat. I added them and now it works fine.

YAY!
DragonsLover
15 Jul 2005 04:19:10
Re: CustLemm under XP
Like I said! :D
JM
17 Jul 2005 21:10:42
Re: CustLemm under XP
I never have problems running Custlemm in Windows XP